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How to Count Use of Zinio

Page history last edited by Kim Miller 7 years, 2 months ago

Original Post 1/9/2013

 

Michael Golrick (LA)

 

I have a question (pre-survey release, no less) about Zinio. At first I thought that Zinio was like Freeding/Freegal, and come to find out I am wrong.

 

The library purchases a “subscription” to the magazines on Zinio. So for the collection, it is clear that it counts as an electronic subscription (which *I* am still counting). How to count the uses….each subscription gets unlimited uses for the price paid, but the end user needs to download the whole issue – not just an article. My original idea was that it was a database, but I now have learned that you can’t search within any magazines, and cannot just download an article. Does that mean it counts like an eBook use? I am inclined to lean that way. After all, some libraries will circulate issues of magazines and we count those as circulations (once for each time an issue is borrowed).

 

I just need a check on this…..Like many of you, in addition to clearing up end of the calendar year stuff, end of the quarter stuff, and generally gearing up for the “spring semester,” I am also contemplating the SLAA survey. (State Library Administrative Agency survey for those not blessed with it. It replaces the StLA survey after a one-year hiatus.)

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SDC Comments:

 

Ann Reed (OR)

 

Takes page from Wyoming and blows past beating head on desk… grabs staple gun and aims at temple….

 

If they don’t choose titles, its still an aggregated database – it’s just one with lousy indexing which necessitates big gulps of data.  As I look at these things, to me its all about how it is licensed.

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Susan Mark (WY

 

At least in our state, we chose the titles in Zinio

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Michael Golrick (LA)

 

Exactly…you (the library) chooses titles, you can download a full issue (not an article, you *MUST* take the whole issue). In that way it is like an eBook where you get the whole thing, not just a chapter which you searched out….

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Ann Reed (OR)

 

Ahh, can everyone use the same issue at the same time?  It would seem analogous to magazine issue circulation.

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Frank Nelson (ID)

 

PEZ dispenser. Point blank. 
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Patience Frederiksen (AK)

 

It occurs to me that we need to have a chart or a list put up on the wiki with the agreed-upon wisdom of how to count these services as we make decisions on each one. If we don’t record our decisions, it is all just blowing in the wind…

 

To start, let’s count the partridge under other materials…

 

Just more weirdness from Alaska. It’s really dark up here.

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Laura Stone (AZ)

 

But the doves probably go under staff.

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Lisa Hickle (OH)

 

I agree, a chart or list would be great! J 

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Dianne Carty (MA)

 

Yes, let’s put a list together.  I can certainly share the spreadsheet we we have put together for Massachusetts—still a work in progress.

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Edie Huffman (IN)

 

Amen!  Memory is not what it used to be!  -- 

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Susan Mark (WY)

 

Page is created 

http://plsc.pbworks.com/w/page/62572262/e-content 

 

And as for the partridge question, this would be my interpretation:

 

12 drummers drumming -- programs 

11 pipers piping -- programs 

10 lords a leaping -- program participants 

9 ladies dancing -- program participants 

8 maids a milking -- staff 

7 swans a swimming -- other operating 

6 geese a laying -- other operating 

5 gold rings -- capital expenditure 

4 calling birds -- staff 

3 french hens -- materials 

2 turtle doves -- staff 

partridge -- collection  

pear tree -- capital 

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Ann Reed (OR)

 

Hmm, but are you sure that the

6 geese a laying -- other operating

Isn’t capital revenue?

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Patience Frederiksen (AK)

 

Thanks to Susan for going ahead and starting a list on the wiki. I like the rationale part of the list.

 

Now, if we could just start to populate that list with what we decided over the past few years.

 

Did we decide that Overdrive was a database or that we counted each title individually in each library’s holdings?

 

The periodical databases from EBSCO remain databases, correct?

 

I have been counting tutor.com/live homework help as a database – is that how everyone else is doing it?

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Ann Reed (OR)

 

I believe we agreed that Overdrive counts as individuals (except for repackaging free books from the internet)

 

I have been advising people to not count tutor.com as its being pushed as a service more than a collection.

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Lauren Miklovic (RI)

 

Hi Patience,

We count Tutor.com as a database as well.

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Robert Jones (IL)

 

That would be most helpful.

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Bruce Pomerantz (MN)

 

I have been advising people to not count tutor.com as its being pushed as a service more than a collection.

  

Hmmm.  A set of Minnesota libraries use Homework Rescue, which I assume is comparable to Tutor. If I accept Ann’s concept, which I’m tending toward, then all of them would be a Supplementary Site but for the fact that there is no administrative entity supervision.  DRAT!   I wonder if I should add a category within my definition, “contracted.” (aka outsourced)

 

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Kim Miller (IMLS)

 

Thank you, Susan! I have linked the e-content wiki page from the “Data Element Definitions: Questions Comments Feedback Input Corrections “ wiki page.

http://plsc.pbworks.com/w/page/7422611/Data%20Element%20Definitions%3A%20Questions%20Comments%20Feedback%20Input%20Corrections

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Edie Huffman (IN)

 

Susan:

This is great!  Thanks a million. 

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Bruce Pomerantz (MN)

 

I researched the discussion that we had and then checked the e-content list susan created.  We failed to list Zinio as to whether or not it is a database. 

 

There seemed to be two answers: If titles are chosen, include usage in circulation. If purchased as a package of titles with no selection on the part of the library(or consortium, whichever the case may be), count it as database and do not include usage in circulation.   

 

Correct?  (And I thought thinking of light as both a wave and a particle was difficult to grasp.)

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Bruce Pomerantz (MN)

 

I haven’t received any responses to the below.  I’d appreciate some help on this one.

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Laura Stone (AZ)

 

I think we may have purposefully skated around the magazine question.

 

I think your reasoning makes sense as it follows our discussion on e-books. However, when you look at “practice” it makes me wonder if we don’t need to continue to work toward better definitions for everything.

 

Here’s my thinking: Library A has a Zinio subscription and individually selects 150 titles. Library B has a Zinio subscription, and after looking over the “100 Most Popular Magazines” decides that list meets its community needs. Library C comes into a windfall, and decides to purchase all (roughly) 1,000 Zinio titles. If we follow the model we’ve established, Library A gets to count the magazines’ circulations, and B and C don’t? Really?

 

I know that some libraries use B&T services to select good-old-fashioned books. Does that mean we should count the circs on those books as something else?

 

Still thinking,

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Jeffrey Kirkendall (NY) - March 18, 2013

 

Was there ever any consensus on the debate over whether to count Freegal as individual audio downloads or as a database?  I followed this thread and checked the site page, but it didn't look that way. Thanks!

 

 

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